Lights On: Follow Your Pain – The Body Is the Treasure Map

Dr. Pedram Shojai

Episode Description:

Dr. Pedram Shojai returns from a week of illness with hard-won lessons about pain, healing, and what happens when a teacher has to drink his own medicine. After battling mast cell activation and histamine overload post-COVID, he found himself lying on the floor at 2am — and instead of running from the discomfort, he leaned in. What followed was an hour of breathwork, deep listening, and what he calls the alchemy of nociception: transforming the lead of physical pain into the gold of self-knowledge. This call is a raw, real-time preview of the upcoming Lights On nociception module, woven together with reflections on sensory fasting, overstimulated nervous systems, and why “do the work” isn’t just a tagline.

Listen to the episode on Spotify here or on your favorite podcast platform and check out the Urban Monk Academy here.

Podcast show notes:

[00:00:00] Pedram opens fresh off a rough week — mast cell activation, histamine overload, and the realization that post-COVID immunity can make ordinary colds hit harder

[00:02:00] From soft mattress to the floor — how back pain from days of bed rest sent him searching for relief and landed him in an unexpected practice

[00:03:00] Introduction to nociception (pain reception) — a preview of the upcoming Lights On module, straight from lived experience at 2am

[00:05:00] The shift from “make it stop” to “what is this telling me?” — catching himself in the old pattern and redirecting toward listening, breathing, and staying with the sensation

[00:07:00] Pain as alchemy — transforming the lead of physical discomfort into gold through awareness; the body as a treasure map

[00:09:00] How Yin, Qigong, and yoga develop this same nociceptive intelligence; where the Lights On course is headed over 52 weeks

[00:10:00] Early results from Lights On students — the raisin meditation, taste saturation, and a silent chef who turned dinner into a multi-channel meditation

[00:12:00] Sensory fasting — the radical idea of giving your eyes, ears, and nervous system a break from information overload

[00:15:00] Vision as the dominant sense and what happens when you simplify your visual field; the case for looking at one leaf for two hours

[00:17:00] Personal context: born in Iran, family still there, and the pull of dopamine-driven news-checking — why Pedram has had to deliberately step away

[00:18:00] A guest session for psychedelic-assisted therapy practitioners — somatic practices that brought a room full of people back into their bodies

[00:20:00] The crutch problem with psychedelics — therapeutic value yes, but don’t hand your introspective power to a plant

[00:21:00] Course update: Lights On is now evergreen and self-paced — new students get modules every 7 days from their start date; Tuesday calls are open Q&A for all

[00:27:00] Don Juan, power naps, and Pedram’s grandfather who learned Spanish at 104 — the value of going to zero

[00:30:00] On course pacing — keep going and layer back; breakthroughs often come through a later puzzle piece

[00:32:00] Illness as a reset — gratitude incubator, first-principles living, and what happens when you’re stripped of energy and agency

[00:35:00] Book club update — Gene Keys was a swing and a miss; new titles coming for a vote

[00:37:00] Open floor for member shares; Pedram wraps early to rest his voice and spend time with his 10-year-old


KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Nociception is pain reception — and your pain has something specific to say if you slow down enough to listen
  • The instinct to escape discomfort is human, but the real work begins when you shift from “make it stop” to “what is this?”
  • Sensory fasting — limiting visual, auditory, and gustatory input — can restore sensitivity and nervous system regulation
  • The Lights On course is evergreen and self-paced; new modules drop every 7 days from your start date
  • “Do the work” — listening alone won’t transform your life; the practices are the teacher

RESOURCES MENTIONED

  • Lights On Course — 52-week perceptual awareness program; available in the academy course library (email support@theurbanmonk.com for access)
  • Lights On Module: Neuroception — just released; covers polyvagal theory and vagal tone
  • Lights On Module: Nociception — coming soon
  • Weekly Tuesday Calls — open Q&A, all members welcome regardless of where you are in the course
  • Carlos Castaneda — The Teachings of Don Juan — referenced re: power napping and going to zero
  • Book Club — new selections coming; vote upcoming (Gene Keys was last month’s pick)

This episode is for educational purposes only and not intended as medical advice. Consult with qualified healthcare practitioners for personalized guidance.

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Dr. Pedram Shojai

NY Times Best Selling author and film maker. Taoist Abbot and Qigong master. Husband and dad. I’m here to help you find your way and be healthy and happy. I don’t want to be your guru…just someone who’ll help point the way. If you’re looking for a real person who’s done the work, I’m your guy. I can light the path and walk along it with you but can’t walk for you.